The March pricelist (available to partners/resellers) is out and with it brings the MAG2600! Okay, so the MAG2600 has actually been available since November as the Enterprise Guest Access (EGA) solution, but now it has moved over to the SSL VPN as well. And that was the plan all along: build one box that could serve both UAC and SSL VPN modes of operation (just not at the same time).
Built to handle 100 concurrent users and roughly about the size of a brick, this small footprint appliance is poised to quickly overtake the SA700 and SA2500 products.
Building on top of the new Common Access Licenses for the X500 series hardware, you will also find the X600 series hardware licenses are now available. If you want to go with one of these appliances (an what SMB customer wouldn’t?), here’s all you need to know:
Software: Runs IVE 7.1 or higher (sorry, no backward compatibility on the software)
Hardware: MAG2600 (Just one is needed, but feel free buy as many as you like)
Licenses:
Single Appliance Licenses (stackable up to the maximum of 100 concurrent users, of course) ACCESSX600-ADD-10U ACCESSX600-ADD-25U ACCESSX600-ADD-50U ACCESSX600-ADD-100U MAG2600-LICENSE-MBR (allows a single MAG2600 to obtain leased licensing from the optional enterprise license server) - Bulk Enterprise Leased Licenses (installed on the optional license server for leasing to multiple X600 appliances) ACCESSX600-ADD-250U ACCESSX600-ADD-500U ACCESSX600-ADD-1000U ACCESSX600-ADD-2500U ACCESSX600-ADD-5000U ACCESSX600-ADD-7500U ACCESSX600-ADD-10KU ACCESSX600-ADD-15KU ACCESSX600-ADD-20KU ACCESSX600-ADD-25KU
What’s the advantage of the MAG2600 over the SA700?
Does it still have a traditional HD or is it all non-volatile parts now?
Are there any features lost (Network Connect, for example)?
Overall the MAG2600 is a more capable box with scalability across both the SA700 and the SA2500 ranges. The SA700 actually started off as the RA500 and has lingered just about as long as it possibly could. The SA700 is now a big target for EOL (end-of-life).
It does have a traditional HD. We looked at the SSD options but just decided they were not cost effective enough. A nice luxury, but really not required in any meaningful way.
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Kevin,
How about the Secure Meeting license when used on MAG2600? I don’t see a SKU in the price list for it, just on the SAX500 appliances.
Secure Meeting is undergoing some slight…shall we say…tweaks?. Anyway, one of my colleagues is working on it now and we should have some updates in the next 45 days or so. In the meantime, Secure Meeting on the SA4500 and SA6500 will do the trick and I suspect there will be many customers going forward who will just use those appliances as dedicated Secure Meeting servers.
Hi Kevin,
Can the MAG2600 act as a license server? If so, would it be able to hand out ACCESSX500-ADD-* licenses to SA4500′s, eg? Thx!
Yes it can.
Hi Kevin,
what about A/P Clustering with the MAG2600?
As far as i can see, it does *ALL* a SA-2500 does, like
- acting as a license server
- having all SSL-VPN features on it (except secure meeting)
- working with up to 100 concurrent users
So, why should we continue to offer/use sa-2500? or is there really no need to do that?
Thanks.
Tobias
It will support A/P and A/A clustering (A/A with an external load balancer), but worth noting is that the latency requirements are <= 150ms so multi-site WAN clustering should probably be avoided. In fact, we are not even going to claim multi-site support on this one.
We expect that SA700 customers will immediately favor this appliance and even SA2500 customers will start moving in this direction rather quickly.
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I see conflicting information depending on if it is the Juniper site, your site, other web site and resellers. Is the MAG2600 like a SA 2500 and does it do SSL VPN access (web portal) for our remote workers? I need to support our remote employees who can’t load software on their customer located systems. They have been using a SA device for web portal and VPN but our group is breaking off onto a seperate network.
The MAG2600 is indeed on par with the SA2500, only newer. It runs the same software, which is where all the features reside.
Given the small size of this unit, do we have a rack mount kit for it? I don’t see anything in the price list to that effect.
We are working on one, but it will likely not be available before July.
Hi Kevin, concerning A/P clustering with MAG 2600 boxes, will it be available soon ? and how will work the licensing ? Like on the X500 boxes with special SKU ? We want to upgrade some customers using SA700 to A/P clustering. Thanks in adv, Regards.
The MAG2600s will support clustering today. Just load an equal number of licenses on each appliance and then cluster them.
Thanks a lot Kevin for the link (and … sorry for asking an already answerd question
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We have a Netscreen SA1005, although system maint – platform shows SA-2000, running software ver 6.0R12.
We use the following heavily. Are they all supported on the MAG2600, or should we get the SA2500?
1) Windows File Bookmarks – UNC to share
2) WSAM – port 3389 only for RDP
3) Terminal Services – Uploaded ICA for Citrix
4) Intranet Web Links
5) Support Meeting – Win XP thru 7
Only reason we need to upgrade is for home user 64bit OS support.
A) Does the MAG2600 have all the above and 64bit Home and Pro support for WSAM?
B) Is the SA2500 being replaced by the MAG2600?
C) We have been told by two different Juniper reps something different in regards to the web GUI. Is the GUI on the MAG different for admins / End Users vs the SA1005 / SA2500?
Joe — The software is the same across all the platforms and none of the features mentioned have been deprecated, so you shoudl be all set to go with the MAG2600. The admin and user experience will be the same.
The MAG2600 is most definitley designed to be the next generation replacement for the SA2500 as well as the SA700.
To migrate from hte SA1005 you just need to load 7.1 (the last version that will run on it anyway), export the configs, and then import them into the new appliance, which will of course also be running 7.1.
Hi Kevin,
I use a SA2500 without a additional userlicence, because there are 2 user incl. the base licence sonce IVE 7.x.
Do I have the same 2 users with a MAG2600 without additional userlicence?
I know that Juniper like all other vendors live from selling userlicences and give the hardware for less.
But I m the smalest Reseller and need a unit for my lab.
The box I could buy over PPC, but the the add user licences are to expensive for me.
Thank you for an answer
Oliver
All of our appliances come with at least 2 users. 1 is there because you have to be able to log in as an admin and the other(s) because we want customers to be able to try it out with a few users even when no licenses are installed. We also have the virtual appliances (free) on the support site.
Kevin,
I am just firming up your reply above about the MAG2600 appliances coming with at least 2 users. I have had various opinions from differnt sources with both yes and no answers. I know you are the king when it comes to this product but is there anything on paper that state the base licenses with the MAG?
Thanks,
John
Yes, they all ship with 2 users. We have to have that in order for admins to be able to log in and perform the initial configuration and user test, even if the licenses haven’t been loaded.
Kevin, I thought licneses are sharad accross SA/MAG clusters now , eg, one 50u licenese on the primary of a MAG2600 A/P cluster is all that is required to provide 50u concurrent on the primary, or 50u to the secondary if failover occurs?
You just need to keep the license count balanced between all nodes in the cluster.